Some Scandi Casting Loops, Faults, Fixes and Improvements.

I had the opportunity to capture a few of my attempted Scandinavian Spey Casting loops from a distance on video this week showing both the D loop and the forward loop.  You can also see my anchor placement.

A few things you might notice:

A high stop.  Maybe a little too high. I will now begin work on letting the rod move forward a tad.

In a few of the casts I may have my hands a little too close together.

Feet placement: I’m still facing the cast too much, to square. My feet could be further apart and forward foot pointing towards target. Feet should not be side by side next to each other.

Abrupt power into the forward stroke.  Cast needs to be smoother and exibit less force and smooth acceleration.

Some of the anchors land too far behind me, the should be out in front or even with me.

Some funky loop formations which have to do with abrupt power application and possibly too light mono shooting line. I happen to have 25lbs Berkley Big Game on the reel which is what I used out of convenience.  Also, I would recommend at least 40 lb as running line because the smaller stuff will scuff and break if you fish with it, possibly costing you a shooting head or more.  I use the smaller mono on small Trout shooting heads but thats it.


In this video I am using an older Redington fast action 14’ #10 that has been “customized” to 13’9”  I am using a Rio Scandi short body an 15’ CND GPS floating tip with a home made tapered leader with a peace of fuzz tied to the end.  It has been suggested by my mentor that a heavier shooting line might aid in the turnover of the line.


Some good things…


…I’m finally developing a higher stop which means better control of my top hand, which, up to this point has been operated by aliens with remote control and totally out of my own control.


I have actually stepped into some of the casts, using a little more forward body motion.  Not that I want to be rocking all over the place, but in the past I have developed a bad habit of actually leaning back away from the cast, during the forward cast, which is a sucky thing to do, particularly with really long lines because it robs you of power.  Just watch the Speyorama top ten finalists, they lean way into it with a lot of forward momentum.   Even if you watch different style casters like Ed Ward, or Janusz Panicz, they do not lean away from the forward cast. It’s been a really bad habit for me to break so to see me lean into the cast and step forward may be overkill but I’m at least on the right track.


Less abrupt forward power application than my previous videos.  Still not perfect but there is some improvement.  

For some reason the term, “pull with the bottom hand” still translates to “panic” for me.  

But I’m smoother than a started out.


Less tailing loops.  I’m trying to learn to make the legs of the forward loop paralell and not too tight.

Lighter anchor.  This style of casting really does work best if you just anchor the leader.

…That means I’m working on a higher drift, and casting just as the line touches down, even experimenting with begining the forward cast before the leader actuall hits.  I think I’ve studied the Scandinavian Cast in slow motion so much that it caused me to be a little sluggish in the sweep, and drift, but then I rush the forward cast.


I’m doing a better job of sweeping to the side, keeping my elbow closer to my rib cage, hand in front of me.  Remember the top hand can be off to the side a little but not so much that the upper arm gets way out there to the side.  The sweep is made by angling the rod, pushing with the bottom hand, and the angle change of the cast is created by rotating the body.


2 thoughts on “Some Scandi Casting Loops, Faults, Fixes and Improvements.

  1. Those back shots provide a good opportunity to view the complete cast. I am in no position to be critical, but I noticed most of your cast finished with a not so straight line, and I wonder what caused that. Over powering for the length of line cast? I could not really tell from the video. I did think that you had quite a lot of line stick on some of the cast though. Maybe start the forward stroke a bit sooner? I noted you mentioned in your note that you were starting the forward cast a bit earlier.

    1. Yes Jim I think you are correct on all counts. Punching the forward cast too hard, too much anchor stick, etc, etc. Also, it might not hurt to give my line a good stretch and use a heavier running line to promote turnover. One thing to notice if you watch closely near the end, I don’t have enough running line out (to avoid lots of stripping in) and the when the line hits the end of the cast it springs back towards me and it creates shock waves. Watch for my next post scheduled for Monday. After that I’ll make some adjustments and try again. Thanks for your observations. They are very astute!

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