Spey casting Faults and Fixes

I’m not really sure what to call this, except for epic fails.  

I thought it would be fun to watch the loop sail out in a wad via slow motion video, so I decided to post it.  Not sure how to analyze the casting faults using words. Its just a messed up cast.

But using the words of Eric Helm, I am not in a state of graceful symbiosis with my rod.  

On the third try I slow down and keep the rod loaded on the forward cast and lengthen the stroke out enough to make a decent cast.  I still pound the forward cast too hard, but I’m working on that.  Modern Scandinavian Spey casting is out the window because I’ve gone back to using my top hand as a crutch.  Not that it doesn’t work ok, its just not Scandinavian Spey casting, which I am in the process of learning through trial and error, mostly error.

Here I am on the banks of an Oregon River trying to employ modern Scandinavian Spey Casting techniques to launch a 450 Airflo Rage with a #7 Sage Method (7126-4) For my tastes this line is heavy for touch and go casting but OK for Skagit Casting.

The line is not the problem though. I’m trying to figure out how much top hand I can get away with while using more bottom hand, Still, I see too much top hand for modern Scandi casting, and not enough bottom hand use throughout the cast.

4 thoughts on “Spey casting Faults and Fixes

  1. Also, notice the behavior of the anchor in the casts. In the first, it “blows” out to the rear from abrupt excess force of the top hand. In the second and third casts, it holds, and the loop formation failures are less dramatic.

    If you can hear your rod (or yourself) cutting wind, you’re probably working harder than you have to…
    The rod flex profile looks fine, just lock that upper arm elbow angle in the forward stroke and observe how that affects the outcome and where the rod bends. You should see a higher flight line and more lift in the launch, and it will feel like slow motion compared to this.

    You should pick my casts apart too–I need some adult supervision myself!

    1. True story Greg, blown anchor destroys the cast as you pointed out. I will have to study my elbow angle and play with it as you point out. Good stuff, keep it coming.

  2. Interesting looking knots there, all right!

    Where you’re right: excessive force at launch, excessive top hand with a short power stroke spell trouble in the form of tailing or colliding loops. It is partly the result of failing to bend the rod where it is strongest–at the butt.

    One possible aid (in addition to lengthening the power stroke and easing up on the abrupt force as you’ve already mentioned): make sure the angle of the rod in relation to the water is slightly more upright in the power stroke than it is in the sweep stroke. This gives you some lateral clearance for the loop to help avoid collision. It will rob you of a little power, but that doesn’t seem to be an issue here!

    If you insist on exactly re-tracing the angle of the back stroke during the forward stroke, make sure to lower the casting station by dropping both hands somewhat without opening the upper arm elbow angle (Hugh Faulkus trick). It will feel like pulling down on a tree branch that is above and behind your shoulder. That will give you additional vertical clearance for the loop to avoid collision while maintaining sharpness.

    That’s what I see, but its just another opinion.

    1. Well I appreciate your opinion sir! Thanks for visiting. Excellent feed back. I had not heard the Hugh Faulkus trick and I’m glad you brought it to our attention. As you can see, lengthening the stroke by adding more bottom hand and using less top hand has proven very difficult for me. Thanks for your help Greg.

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